Robert Pincus-Witten: Claes, what is a happening?
Claes Oldenburg: A happening is a breaking down of the barriers between the arts, and something close to an actual experience. It should be a very free form, a very ambiguous and suggestive form. I think it's filled with unexplored and primitive possibilities. I like it to be that way - like it to be as unpredictable as possible.
… I think the
happening is a potential work of art. I talk of it all the time as a
composition or work of art. But maybe that’s not so important. Maybe it’s more
important that it’s a certain experience: simply sitting and watching in an
isolated way something that’s very familiar. I’d like to get away from the
notion of a work of art as something outside of experience, something that is
located in museums, something that is terribly precious. I’d like to think of a
normal, natural experience in terms of a work of art. I don’t think the notion
of the detached work of art – this aristocratic work of art – is a very useful
notion anymore. People don’t want that. They suffer with that notion and they
would prefer to have a redefinition of art in something closer to themselves.
… a Western audience has to have explanations. They really
can’t watch anything for its own sake. They have to have an explanation first
or a reason for watching it. They really don’t watch a thing. They follow an
idea as it unravels, and everything represents the unravelling of an idea. The
happening, as I practice it, creates a lot of discomfort for the audience. It’s
an attempt to rattle them out of the notion that they are going to watch a play
or an idea unfold. I try to make them uncomfortable to a certain degree, to
make them bored to a certain degree, and to make them receptive to a new way of
looking at things.
The Transformation of Daddy Warbucks: An interview with Claes Oldenburg by Robert Pincus-Witten 1963.
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